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Monday, August 16, 2004
  The propensity of unremitting life (man i love bit words)
In the event that someone or anyone chooses to live out a life farther than their bedside, they are faced with many choices;this is obvious. Choices as in food, clothing, activities, maybe even faith, politics, religion, and education. But what i have found apon this subject is that whether agreed upon or not, choices are inevitable. The choice to answer someone, the choice to wake up in the morning. Even more, choices are prominate when they are trying to be evaded, possibly even more so than when choices are confronted. Say you are given a problem to deal with. Within the problem you must make a choice on what to do. But say perhaps you do not want to deal with the problem and thus decide on inaction. This is a choice; you have chosen inactivity in choosing. So no matter what, always a choice is made. Take a simple question, given to you by a teacher. You cannot choose the answer so you choose silence. In this form you may think i am stupid for even thinking of such an obvious event. But take it a step further. (this is a completely fictional situation simply used for demonstration of this useless topic).Your friend has a detrimental habit that is slowly but surely killing him and the situation is unbareable for you. Its been going on for sometime and your choices are a.) telling someone else in which case you are jeopardized or b.) support him with advice in which case he is jeopardized. You have been knee deep in this water since the beginning and by being unable to choose a or b, you are simultaneously choosing b., because it is the same as inactivity. Today i was faced with somewhat of a similar situation. When asked how i felt about a certain action i had two choices, to tell the truth, or tell the lie about my feelings. Knowing the lie was what wanted to be heard but would leave me empty, and the truth could be adverse in out friendship, i was stuck. Either choice was the wrong one. I chose silence, which led to inquiry and thus ended up choosing the truth, without choosing the truth. Why is this so.....

Another topic; my father asked me a very thought provoking question today that i would like some input on. Obviously determined by your religious status and mostly aimed towards those who accept the concept of incessant life, my question is (and think long and hard about this one) When does eternal life begin?

My answer: The day i accepted Christ was the day i was given eternal life and thus that is when it began.

My father's reply: So since in eternal life you are speaking of Heaven, would you say that on that day, Heaven began?

My answer: Well i guess so.....so then what about Hell?

Tell me please what you think about it all..I'd love to know.later
 
Comments:
I think that eternal life starts when you stop thinking about when it all starts and ends, and you just give in. You just live your life. You realize that you will die, and life WILL end, and in this instance, you are invincible.

Perhaps your question was pointed towards those of a religious persuasion. Sorry. Oh, and by the way, this is Ryan, not Lenny. Sorry about making you choose or not choose today.
 
I would say that it is the moment after I die. Accepting Christ can be undone, people fall away from grace, in which case, it would break the eternal concept.

Once your dead, your choices have been made, your soul has been solidified, and you stay as you ended in life. At least, I think so. So yeah. When you die. Unless I didn't understand your question.

Oh, and its actually Lenny this time.
 
I think your problem is saying that
eternal life = heaven.
Yes, eternal life is spent in heaven (or hell) but eternal life is not equivalant to heaven. Heaven is where many people will spend eternity. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" -Genesis 1:1. God is in heaven right now, has always been in heaven, and will always be in heaven. Heaven is a constant. Heaven is not created for you on the day you accept Christ.

Also, eternal life is given to us at our spiritual rebirth - like you said Kara. "I assure you, those who listen to my message and believe in God who sent me have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have already passed from death into life." -John 5:24
 
I do see all of your points. Specifically Jennifer though; what i meant to say is obviously Heaven is a constant that always exists but your destination to it is not solidified until you have accepted Christ. SO not that HEaven is created on that day but that it's appearance/approval to you is given on that day and thus your ability to conceive and enjoy it is given as well. maybe?
 
Good Question! It would seem that you all take a slightly catholic aproach to it though. I didn't think there were too many around the area. Anyhow, eternal life, as I see it doesn't begin with acceptance of jesus. Following the lines being drawn by other comments,a small child, unbaptised, has created no spot in heaven, and therefore loses their entitlement to eternal life. I simply do not see this to be true. All men are created equally in Gods eyes, and therefore we must all have been granted eternal life. To deny someone a gift for not having recieved the blessing of the church should not mean denouncement from heaven.

While we're asking questions though, here's a real stinker: If we are to believe that unborn babies have a soul, and we kill them trough abortion, where does it go? Is there a heaven or hell for a soul that has experienced no fears or joys?

Hmmm... I shall post this on my own blog.
 
You know what book all of you should read? The Case for Faith by Lee Strobel. One question that is approached is the one of Hell and eternal suffering anmd how it fits in with a loving God. I almost dont want to try and explain for fear of bastardizing it but basically it goes like this: Hell is a place of eternal seperation from God. People who go to hell are the ones who have fully chosen to live a life on earth seperate from God. This means that unborn, newly born, and infant children will never be in Hell because they are too immature to even make that kind of a decision. Basically yea....
 
well, right. you know.
 
Right on, Kara. I agree, me and my crazy Mormon religion, we believe that children aren't accountable for their actions until they turn 8. Not that, the day before they turn 8 is any different than the next, but its just the age. Whatever. I'm just a-sayin that I agrees with you. It was good to see you last night, I hope you had a good time at Red Robin, and with Ryan and such. Okay bye.
 
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